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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:27 pm

Dragnoxz (wierd spelling by the way, did you do that on purpose?)

Were you and OCU in some kind of a war? You said your troops are all over their territory? Did you invade? And what is the ARC that TFC has confiscated? What is UIA? How do you get ground troops?
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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:08 pm

Spectre,

I am Cmdr. Hanzo "Kenshi" Hideyoshi, Industrial Defense Force Chief Commander.

1. Yes, he intended to spell it the way he did. Frankly I like the originality.
2. Unless you use Arma2 (which we do) ground troops are merely hypothetical.
3. UIA stands for Universal Intelligence Agency. This division of GPEO is personally run by Dragnoxz where me makes his "predictions" in regard to things to come. We at the IDN like to refer to it as the Un Intelligence Agancey as none of his assumptions, which is what they really are, have come to pass. Especially his latest and soon to be most costly mistake, which I will explain shortly.
4. OCU and GPEO were recently involved in an armed conflict so to speak. Not a war, just a single strike. This strike was carried out with the IDN as the aggressor. It was carried out at the request of OCU's largest client as a final test of AeroShark Tech. technology capability and IDN tactical strength. Final reassurance, if you will. Earlier that day, two IDN Hypersonic Strike/Recon Aircraft or HSR-01 Auroras launched from Misawa Air Base in Japan to pinpoint the locations of GPEO ship docks and two airfields which were destroyed by an IDN Strike Package later that night. IDN also claimed two air to air kills against opposing forces who launched after the bombing was completed but the opposing forces claim one over IDN and denies any losses of their own. As talk has been the only means of proof ( or complete lack there of) so far the IDN has dismissed its claims of air to air kills as well as refuses to acknowledge the claims of the others. In all actuality, the connection was beginning to fail (thank you gamespy) and several people were dropped from the session several times. Some were able to re-establish connection while others weren't. Soon afterward the connection was completely lost while participants were debating the legitimacy of one anothers kills. Gamespy's lack of stability is a pain we must all contend with, there fore IDN does not claim that the opposing forces are lying. We feel that extreme session lag is what caused players to experience different events in the same session. It happens regularly on Gamespy which we try to avoid using. However, IDN maintains the successful strike and destruction of GPEO facilities.
5. As far as GPEO troops being in OCU territory. OCU does not possess territory and never has. Dragnoxz stated we would have to do something in order to return to being recognized as a power. OCU is not a power. No matter how many times we explain this to Dragnoxz, he does not understand that we are a corporation and are not interested in political power like TFC. Power and territories is not something that we are after. Our employer is after power. Their identity will be revealed at their own will as OCU honors client confidentiality such as Spectre Tactical Services Inc. The territory Dragnoxz is referring to is a facility called the Mojave Air and Pace Port in SoCal. That was not an OCU territory, but an annex AeroShark Tech. borrowed from GPEO for about a week until all OCU personnel were evacuated on Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:51 am.
See http://ittn.forumotion.com/t433p90-ocu-activation for confirmation.
6. The ARC stands for Aerospace Research Center which was a cover up for the construction of OCU Facility IOC-1. And Dragnoxz is right. TFC craft would have found it by now. And most likely are confiscating what tiny bit they can. The ARC began construction six days before OCU left the area. UIA did not find it strange that OCU had been planning construction of IOC-1 for months, and then out of nowhere construction of the never before mentioned ARC begins. Basically, after six days of half assed construction the entire facility consists of a few steel beams and some concrete. Otherwise we would have launched from there instead of Misawa AB. But that didn't send a red flag either. In fact, the only thing TFC will find there that will leave any kind of impression on them is the same thing the GPEO troops in SoCal and the Mexican border will find tonight. A couple of high explosive cruise missiles screaming toward them at Mach 5.

The UIA and all its "predictions" does not possess the ability to see obvious traps. OCU abandoned both facilities with absolutely no argument at the first signs of obvious trouble. UIA also failed to realize how convient the strike from Misawa AB was. This was carried out right after the reappeared to lay claim of the area. The only facilities GPEO and TFC can pinpoint were very temporarily used with virtually efforts from OCU to construct further. OCU has two large production facilities in Asia as well as a few airports we'll be using to launch strikes against TFC. Also in Mexico where stikes will continue against GPEO. Through studying military history, will find the most effective weapon in any battlefield of any era is deception. Our employer wants the Pacific and obviously the powers that be aren't going to leave voluntarily. That was the only point of even contacting TFC. To see if they would emerge, and they did. Instead of leaving right away, we convinced them we were potential allies with them just long enough to gather intel on them. Also, leaving right away would have been shadey as if we were up to something so we had to bide our time and create the perfect opportunity to leave that strike zone as well. By getting "deported" as Dragnoxz likes to call it, we were able to kill two birds with one stone. There was no more need to stick around as it became obvious right away that there are only two members in TFC and they are poorly equipped. Otherwise they wouldn't be asking us to provide them with AST technology. Once we realized this we figured it was okay to leave and begin carrying out the job we are paid to do. Again, two birds with one stone. TFC is easy to hit because Japan is the size of California. There's not place for them to hide and the entire country is within striking distance of any point in Asia. On top of that there is no place for them to run but east, where GPEO temporarily holds control. Now that GPEO knows TFC was intending on invading them they may or may not provide them sanctuary of use of their air/sea space. The rest of Asia however is very big and they'll have much trouble finding us. The few they have will be spread very thin trying to do so. This is why we also chose to attack GPEO through Mexico tonight. GPEO has a lot of territory. We've already proven that they can be attacked through the Pacific, now we'll spread their forces out down to Mexico as well. Our mission is not to wipe them out, just drastically reduce their numbers. Especially that of their suddenly exposed ground troops. UIA failed to predict that.

All the emotion and shit talking you might have seen is truly a smoke screen. This tactic is used to distract the enemy with their own emotions. One's judgement is compromised once they respond to insult with emotional. Their mind is suddenly put somewhere else. Winning the debate, rather than planning the next move. You'll find that IDN in particular are very cold and emotionless. Our only mission is to complete our end of the contract. Our only fear is failure. We hold no personal grudges as we don't even know the people we're fighting. In the same breath, we pride ourselves on getting the job done and will go to whatever means necessary to do so. As the legendary Sun Tzu wrote in his military strategy masterpiece, "The Art of War"; "Victory is reserved for those willing to pay its price". The IDN tends to make others pay a great deal of that debt.

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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:31 pm

OCU/IDN or its clients have no clue what UIA Intel it has. There is only 2 of them, with one of them having 2 computers. GPEO also has passage rights in Mexico, so we can enter if we want. OCU/IDN couldn't have missiles unless they stole them or someone gave them some. I am not even sure how they could have gotten Auroras, or jets, and fuel and ammo for their group, unless it is very limited. Now that I look, GPEO has 160,000+ Troops in the region, that is 2 Army Units, one is armored and the other is Infantry. The Infantry has moved in a small part of their unit, and both Army Units can respond quick. Several choppers can be used to cover a large area, and tanks can be moved in also. You don't just wipe out thousands of troops with barely any ammo. And, what does, "Unltd," mean ? It is like United, but miss spelled, or is it UN-LTD ? Like United Nations Ltd.
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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:36 pm

Nice. Hypothetical troops. Using that logic, I can move a fleet of carriers, destroyers, submarines, and battleships from the Gulf of Mexico, to Antartica in just about an hour. Then when someone surfaces to destroy them I can just say they never got there. There still in the Gulf. and If you had a brain, you would no Unltd. = Unlimited.
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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:50 pm

Spectre,

I'd also like to point out how deception can used to easily fool an intel agency. The UIA aka Dragnixz, as well as his subordinate members and partners tend to overlook many obvious facts. They are quite easy to fool are usually the ones doing most of the fooling on themselves. To give you an example. The UIA is convinced the IDN consists of only one or two people. However, last week a GPEO member and two mercenaries entered an IDN session. There were four aircraft already flying in the session by the time they entered. Two were using obvious IDN callsigns used by Special Operations Divion-1. They naturally began their "exercise" against the two identified IDN aircraft, both of which flying AST Su-35s. What all three of them seemed to overlook was the manufacturer and aircraft type of the other two aircraft in the session. One was flying an E-737 and the other and F-16E Block 60, both manufactured by AST. The E-737 is still underdevelopment and was conducting system tests. Had they paid attention to aircraft type instead of callsigns they would have realized this and passed it on to the all knowing UIA who would have concluded that there were indeed four IND in that session. By investigating the AST site, he would have realized that both of these planes are on the aircraft productions list regardless of the fact that that the pilots flying them in the session weren't using IDN callsigns.

Many groups boast about number, we conceal ours. How can the enemy properly prepare an interception if they don't know how many aircraft and of why type they may be intercepting. Not knowing means not not being able to properly prepare.

Also, beings that Dragnoxz cannot participate in combat for a while, he has become virtually useless other that playing an entertaining role as intelligence. He has become obsessed with "predicting" and "exposing". He believes that we are all the same person because our "texting" style is the same. This actually was not something we planned, but he became obsessed with this idea so we took it and ran. If you're going to throw a dog a bone, throw it the bone it wants. We saw this as an opportunity to keep him focused on trying to prove his theories instead of creating efficient defense strategies. If he puts all his efforts into proving things that truly don't effect the actual combat sessions either way, he becomes of no value as a leader. Therefor we support his conspiracies and give him even more "evidence" to obsess over. Most of his "intel" is second hand information passed down through his members who typically embellish the truth due to their personal pride. They don't realize how reckless this is for regarding the safety of their team in further operations. Dragnoxz then becomes even more convinced that things are way the way he sees them, even though most of what he's seeing is through someone else's eyes. And as long as he's off in another direction chasing things that aren't there he's of very little threat to our operations. The fact that his only means of defending Honolulu was through two mercenaries who didn't show up until after the damage was done is proof of his and the GPEO's inability to defend themselves and engage the enemy efficiently.

The reason we're exposing all this is because we've already gathered accurate intel of GPEO's and other opposing Pacific forces locations and downloaded the appropriate sceneries such as Scar Creek. This way strikes against those bases will be legit. Thanks to TFC-Reverend, we know where to find his ships as he just deployed them to the Pacific in effort to deter GPEO ships from advancing east toward Japan. Now we know where to find them all. Antiship missions can be conducted within a few hundred square miles of each other. Basically, we played them like a deck of cards. Strikes will begin again tonight. I'd like to see what pathetic attempt, if any, they make to defend themselves this time. We've also determined GPEOs capabilities, therefor the need for this long lasting counter intel campaign (at least in this regard) is no long necessary. Spectre, I advise you lean on logic and not emotion, or your time here in the new VW will be very dissatisfying.

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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:01 pm

DAAAAAAAAYUUUUUMMMMMM!!!!!!!! I had no idea it was this involved. This is crazy shit. OCU how do we sign up? lol
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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:07 pm

Sepctre,

You can't sign up, but you can ask for support.
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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:38 pm

Oh Reverend,

Why don't you tell Dragon about how many IDN members you ducked on Skype. Tell him that I added you to the chat, then did a group call with SIX guys (one actually a lady) in the chat, AND YOU SPLIT once the phone started ringing. Yeah, and those were just the six available. Truth hurts don't it?


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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:23 pm

I have a question. If we accept your support what does that make us in regard to GPEO. We're not that far from their territory. We're not trying to be a government. Just a private defense group. Will they attack us.
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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:31 pm

Spectre,

I don't think they would attack you or do anything rash. As long as you don't invade them or violate their airspace you should be fine. Contact them to get an answer.

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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:24 am

lol, Sharkey, really only knows how to lie and cheat. It is easy to use 2 computers to fly 2 aircraft, have 2 others to be your followers. 3 members, you with 2 computers, 1 Stinger and 1 other. 4 planes. If 4 GPEO engaged all of those, only one would be unable to evade. You can talk to yourself all you want, it is funny, and amuses us. The more you do so, the more it stacks up.

And no we would not attack, yet. Give us some time to write up invasion plans at least. It is so hard to plan so much when we are busy trying to reverse engineer a bullet, and find someone to make us some paper to write all of these things on. I been collecting bullets for a long time now, and I managed to find 5 so far, another 5 years and I might have 7 ! We are way on our way to arming up. Each bullet is kind of different. 2 bullets are the same, and the rest are different. Some big, some small. All we need to do now is find a gun. hopefully it will be the one that matches the 2 bullets we have, so we can test one. This way we can use it once in battle. If we are lucky, we might find another bullet to match that one that might fit the gun we might find, so we will have 2 to use in battle. Wish us luck, cause we are going to need it very much.
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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:21 am

Well, seeing as your a private defense group(mercenary group) They CANNOT attack you.
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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:34 am

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Although entertaining, I find your newest conspiracy to be a bit extreme. Is your pride of such importance that you're willing to throw your dignity under the bus? Well, as of last night its safe to say that GPEO is now the only active group who hasn't attended a Skype meeting with us. Everybody else agrees that you are outnumbered and that your only real active pilot is Razgreiz. Who as we all know does not stack up to our pilots. Over the last several months the number of GPEO pilots to take to the skies has drastically dropped, leaving only one to be named. In fact, those two mercs from the Hawaii strike flew in higher number than any GPEO flight I personally have ever seen. Simply put, nobody believes your bullshit. Its obvious you don't think. Flying from two computers? Dude, we've been doing this VM stuff for eight months. You really believe we haven't managed to recruit anyone? In fact, one of the reasons your numbers have dropped so drastically low is because we've even successfully recruited from your ranks. And although he's not the first one, why would a logical person like Stinger leave one faction to join another that according to your logic, has no members? The truth is, you put all this effort into your "IDN Numbers Conspiracy" to mask the fact that YOU indeed are the one with the lone pilot. If this wasn't true you wouldn't need to hire mercs to defend your areas for you. The other night, not one single GPEO aircraft was seen, just two mercs. In fact, everybody agrees that Raz is your only reliabe asset. And if he can't make to the fight, GPEO doesn't make it to the fight. They also agree, and he knows personally, that he does not possess the skills necessary to engage our pilots. Every time he's tried he's been in an overwhelmingly losing situation. He's never managed to get off a single shot against any one of us. And I'm sure you'll say, 1. "well our guys have been busy with real world stuff", or, 2. "we're hiding our true numbers and just trying to feel you out". My means of calling bullshit would be to retort with, 1. "Yeah, well your guys must be busier than everyone else as they're the only ones who haven't managed to show up to a single session in a long time", or 2. "feeling us out at the expense of Raz, great way to toss your boy into the meat grinder". What I find funny is the fact that the only guy to never have flown in an IDN session is the one talking to most about what goes on in them. That is truly comical. Nobody listens to your bullshit. Nobody responds to it when you post it because they all know the truth for themselves. When you post your conspiracies you only make an ass of yourself. Just do the adult thing and admit that once again, you were wrong. It won't kill you, I promise. GPEO has only managed to produce a single fighter as of late. Everybody has noticed this. I've managed to produce up to six at a time in one session, this has also been noticed. But according to your logic I'm the one lacking pilots. You outnumber me....HA! And your newest conspiracy, rotflmfao!!! Fake planes? Two computers? Haha, fake planes can't dogfight buddy. Fake planes can't fly formation aerobatics either. Fake AWACS can't communicate with the rest of flight to coordinate their next move. If a flight of 4 GPEO fighters (which we all know would actually be one GPEO and three mercs) engaged six IDN, ALL six IDN fighters would take defensive actions and destroy 4 GPEO planes. Oh Drag, you're so silly. To celebrate your idiocy I've decided to make a motivational in honor of you. I'll send it to everybody I know and post it on our site. Keep it real buddy...seriously though, keep it REAL.
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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:54 am

Hrrrrmmmm. So I did some research of my own last night. I looked at the history of the forums and I find the whole rivalry between GPEO and IDN interesting. One thing I noticed is that Dragnoxz never accuses anybody who agrees with him of being somebody else or lying about anything. But anybody who agrees with Sharkey is acused of being Sharkey. Dragnoxz has made up his mind that nobody else is allowed any opinion unless it is the same as his. As far as things that can be traced this is what I've come up with. Please consider that this is only based on stuff posted on both sites and vatsim.

GPEO vs IDN since January of 2012

Number of active members: GPEO: 3+ IDN: 6+
Max number of pilots to fly in a session: GPEO: 1 IDN: 6
Number of hosted sessions: GPEO: NA IDN: 25
Number of combat sorties: GPEO: 0 IDN: 5
Number of flights invovling leaders: GPEO: 0 IDN: 15

My numbers may be off but from everything I see both sides posting in the forums this is what I believe. I'm sure Dragnoxz will conclude that I am Mike Sharkey as well for posting this. This seems to be his explanation for everything beyond his control. But hey he has never been involved in a single flight so how could he even come to a credible conclusion anyway. Truth is I see there has been virtually no action on the side of GPEO other than one pilot participating in exercises. I see a whole lot of claims involving hypothetical weapons and radars. But only talk of one actual mission that GPEO pilots did not even participate in. And GPEO has yet to deny that the training exercises between their pilot and IDN went the way the IDN says. In one post GPEO claimed they lost due to an aircraft advantage of the IDN. That's publicly admitting a loss in my eyes. In fact he is that same pillot IDN references as being the only active GPEO pilot. From what is posted by GPEO in the forums there is no mention of missions or flights from any other GPEO member but him. I've come to my own conclusions as to who can actually do what. Just had to put in my two cents.
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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:00 pm

Okay so I checked the forums and found the ROE. I couldn't find anything about currency though and I still haven't gotten a response from Dragnoxz or anybody else about them. We'd like to get our planes and start working but we can't buy them if we don't know how much money we start off with or how the currency system even works. A little help would be nice. Thanks in advance.
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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:30 pm

Spectre,

Firstly, don't waste your time getting involved in our rivalry. You're new so you don't want to make any unnecessary enemies for yourself. Stinger answered your question and I'd leave it at that. No offense, but just worry about yourself. I don't mean that as an insult in any way.

To answer your question, I think I may have given you the wrong impression regarding currency. It's not really a "by the dollar" system. Currency is again hypothetical and determined by one's ability to gain resources primarily. If you can take a territory that is high in natural resources, or work out some kind of trade with a group that already has, then you would be considered wealthy. I don't think anybody has an exact net worth. It would be safe to say that as for now you could acquire a medium fleet of 4th gen fighters, or a very small amount of 5th gen. Once you start missions and achieve a steady success rate, your net worth will grow. There is no specific currency system. I mentioned just in case you were planning on starting with a large fleet of F-22s, B-2s, and carriers, as many have tried to do in the past. These are probably the most expensive platforms and it is not likely you would start off with a high number of such advanced weapons. 4th gen like F-15s and F-16s as you mentioned would be more realistic. I hope this has been helpful.

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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:03 pm

No offense taken. I just saw all this rivalry and got curious what it was all about. But I'll take your advise though. Thanks for explaining that currency thing. I guess we can finally get our planes. I sent you the Su-33 with my guages in it a few minutes ago. I hope you like it. If you do maybe we can work out a deal about airplanes. I'm curious though. When Dragnoxz talking about planning an invasion over a week was he being surious? We haven't even fown any missions yet. Why's he already after us. We didn't attack or threaten to attack? And what's all that talk about guns and bullets. I have no clue what hes talking about? Is it ARMA or something? I only asked about being close to his territory so I can be sure we're not in any danger. Its pretty messed up if hes targeting us already. Especially cause we haven't had a single session yet.
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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:06 pm

I am sure you done your research. So I am not able to fly, nor is most of the other GPEO, but we do have a fighter unit under our leadership. They may not have been trained 100% GPEO style, but they seem to have stopped IDN from their attack in Hawaii.

Groups who form can form their own currency, if they want. Not all groups use a money system, since there are other systems.

And do you have a real name, and place you come from, like where are you from ? Not to get off subject or anything, but if you live in Cali, or near Mexico, or something, would you not feel better operating a group near there, since you might know the area better ?

And not to be rude, since you are new, but what is this accusing me of always being like the one who thinks if I can't do it no one can, or whatever ? When have I said that and how can anyone possibly get that from me when I have always admitted my wrongs and explained the reasons why I do things ? Same reason OCU attempts to anger me, it is just a tactic to anger them into making mistakes. I can see it has worked, due to personal insults. We don't have such magnitude of anger coming form us, we watch and laugh behind closed doors. So if such tactic is not working by both sides, why use it ?
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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:47 pm

If by "stopped" you mean not only lunching from an island they failed to even reach earlier that day, but scrambling from an airbase 22 minutes after it and several harbor facilities were already bombed and destroyed, then sure. They stopped us. Especially the guy who kept dropping from the session. He accomplished a whole lot. You swear your guys won just because they say so. Of course they would. They're your guys. Raz with all his recent experience can't even come close to hanging with IDN, but these clowns can? Give me a break. Cameras are up and running from now on so I expect you won't be saying very much in the near future buddy.
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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:10 am

Dragnoxz I said that becuase on your guestbook on your main site you accused like four different people of being him right after they agreed with him. You did it on this one too so naturally I figured you'd do the same to me. But I'm going to follow OCUs advise and just drop the subject now. What I need to know is how weapons work. I know they're hypothetical but there's a limit right. And what's the limitiation on weapon type. I read somehwere that nukes take a year or so to get. What about tomohawks? And SAMS?

OCU. That F-22 was da sheeeiiiiiiiaaaaaazzzzzzzzz!!!!!! Seriously its the best looking F-22 model I've seen and I have the alpha and iris ones too. And the engine sound is amazing. This one is just gorgous. You should update your AST site or even post pics of it here if you can. Tell me what I have to do get a finished copy with a cokpit. I really appreciate that you hooked me up with this one but now I'm obsessed and I need a copy of the finished one! This thing is my crack! lol And the SAMS. I really want those. I'm still not sure if he's serious about invading so I want those SAMS.
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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:10 pm

Spectre,

Contact me tonight on Skype please.

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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:20 pm

What time will you guys be on Skype? I have to make you aware of something.
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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:36 am

There are limits due to FSX not having air to air missiles, at least not free ware, so everyone can have. There is the super bug, but that is F-18 VS F-18. Not everyone can get payware. The only system that everyone can use in air to air combat is the counting system. We have been only able to launch cruise missiles form craft with warheads, but only the missiles can create object collision, not the effects.

0.1 mile or less is the range, count out loud in session 5 one thousands, the call out fox two, then you determine of the missile would be a hit or miss. Kind of a honor system also. It is better to record kills these days, because it will allow someone to determine if they them self were downed or not.

As for our pilots unable to take off from an airport they were unable to spawn to in order to take off, I think that was the sessions hosts error, since no one was able to go to their start base. The fighters would have taken off from an international airport, which if it had been bombed, then IDN had bombed civilians, just like docks it was attacking. Civilian docks and military docks are close to one another, and civilians and military personnel tend to meet with family. Imagine being able to meet with your family after a long time at sea, only to find out where you were to meet them was bombed. How do you take into count the limited payload of bombs able to be dropped from aircraft, but yet that aircraft can stay in the area for so long, long enough to take out all of its very many targets ? What about the lack of aircraft AST would have due to no facilities able to produce such craft they claim to have ? I don't supposed they took off form a place like China or Taiwan with no where to land while airports in GPEO areas would know of all flights entering and exiting the Pacific, checking pilot logs and logging everything, just to make sure a hostile group was not attempting to smuggle in unwanted things ? IDN might have reached Hawaii to make a few passes, but not without a tanker being able to make it to within a good thousand miles, and if IDN did manage to get a tanker in, it would have had to fly all the way back to where it came form, so it would have still been in session long after the battle would have taken place. And if IDN had no resistance, there was no way home, because something would have taken out that tanker, and the fighter or bomber would have ran out of fuel long before they could reach friendly land. I mean that is nearly 4,000 miles one way. Fighters at best might have 1,200 to 2,000 miles range ferry, unarmed and packed with externals. Tanker would need its own reserve supply, as well as enough to fuel that fighter all the way there and back. 8,000+ miles for both craft, on top of the time the craft was in the area for attacks. If GPEO done a mission like that, we would know we might not return, just by the fuel alone. At first site of enemy air craft, we would leave, to survive and fight another day, but I guess pretending to be Japanese, attacking Pearl Harbor, and being a Kamikaze just fits with the story line. Just remember what happened to the last ones who attacked Pearl Harbor. Revolutionary War = FSXF/GPEO, Civil War (Free) GPEO/GPEO (Rockstar) WW-1 GPEO/ACC WW-2 IDN/OCU/AST/GPEO. GPEO is always the similarity to the USA. After WW-2, was Korea then Nam, then a series of small conflicts then Iraq then Iraq again. I just wonder who is going to be the next ones.
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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:20 am

1. The distance between take off and strike points was 3,850 miles. Carying full fuel load and external tanks, the SU-35 Flanker S has a range of 2,430 miles. We loaded the wing stations with external tanks leaving only the wingtips and gun pod loaded with munitions. We calculated that the amount of GPEO air assets available would not require any more than that. The Su-35s refueled 1,020 miles from target extending their capable mission range to 4,860nmi. If you do the math you'll see they would have made it to Honolulu with a loiter of 35+ min TOT (depending on maneuvers) before having to leave the engagement zone to refuel and RTB. They then would have made it the tanker with 15+ minutes to spare, then proceeded to the landing point which was 250 miles closer than the take off point. They would have made it there with no problems and would have met no resistance as the Mission Empoyer had the only assests in that area. The loss of network connection is what ultimately prevented this.

2. The strike package of B-1Rs followed the same route, only they did not loiter over the target. They dropped their payload and left. Each B-1R has a cruise speed of 900kts and a payload of 125,000lb of explosive munitions; 50,000lbs on external stations, and 75,000 in internal bays. (Although showcased on an episode of "Dogfights" as an air to air missile truck, Rockwell/Boeing has not limited them to that sole capablility and even promises Congress that with the higher cruising speed they will be an even more effective bomber than the current B-1. I say this bacause GPEO's leader already failed to do research on the B-1R and assumed they are limited to what he saw in the 2 minute block of computer animated footage he saw in that episode, which he expressed to OCU President over Skype. This is meant to help everybody else avoid similar confusion). Beings that each B-1R can carry 125,000lbs of ordinance, the two B-1Rs carrying out the strike would have a total of 250,000lb of explosive ordinance betweent them. More than enought to do the dame the IDN claims. And unless there were civilians just standing on the runways at Honolulu ITN civilian casualities would be minimal. Ford Island NALF however, was completely destroyed as well as three ship docks. All order of the client. Furthermore the B-1R has a range of 6,778nmi so reaching the target and making it to the tanker, target, tanker, then landing point would not have been an issue.
3. Also, the KC-10 has a range of 4,400nmi. Considering it only to fly 650 miles to meet up with the Flankers and Lancers it would have had plent of ability to do so. After they tanked the KC-10 RTB, re loaded, then departed to link up with them at the exit refuel point 930nmi. The reason whey none of the aircraft made it to RTB is because the connection was lost.
4. I personally know Sharkey set the propper sessions realisms according to the ROEs as I am the one who was talking to him over Skype as he set them up. However, gamespy crashed twice while attempting to get the session up. The first time, the settings remained the same. The second time, the session description was the same so we both assumed the settings were too. Obviously they were reset according the ones we used during private training sessions. This is entirely our fault for becoming impatient and not chekcing to make sure. This will not happen again.

5. Baka, dare mo nihonjin no furi o sa rete imasen. IDN wa, wareware wa subete nihonjindearu to shuchō shimasenga, watashitachi no hanbun'ijōdearu. Sore wa anata ga hyōjun-tekina kudaranai Amcerican kyōiku de anata no kanashī kokoromi o shippai shita koto o watashi wa odoroka rete imasen. Anata wa osoraku, anata ga motto anata no kyōshi koto o shitteita to omoimashita. Watashi wa kanji de nyūryoku shita baai anata wa doko made mo kore o yonde kara hajimereba wakaranainode, watashi wa rōma ji de kore o taipu shite iru. Rōma ji o shiyō shite, watashi wa anata no hon'yaku no kikai o ataeru koto ni dōjō o totte iru. To nihongode anata no kanashī kokoromi to wa kotonari, bun no kōzō ni yotte saitekidesu.

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PostSubject: Re: Fight Plans   Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:58 am

I'd also like to add that GPEO's mercenaries did not even enter the session until after the bombs were dropped. The session setup mistakes (which Kenshi explained the cause of in his statement above) had nothing to do with them showing up late. I hosted the session myself and received notification of their presence the very moment they loaded into the session. Regardless, they were too late.

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