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PostSubject: Polictical Campaign   Sat Jun 02, 2012 2:41 pm

Today, day two of our political campaign, has once again proved to be a successful day. There is still no competition for taking the Independent Republic of Arizona. Our campaign will continue for three more days unless another faction decides to run against us. We thank the people of Arizona for there continued support and hope to soon be running their government.
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PostSubject: Re: Polictical Campaign   Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:30 pm

You think you can just establish your own government in somebody elses home? Arizona is independent, and we plan on keeping it that way. The people of Arizona have managed to get along just fine without your government. The Syndicate Insurgency Network declares war on the Black Aces and all other war mongering hordes who think they own any share of the free world. Resistance...you're about to get your fair share of it.


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PostSubject: Re: Polictical Campaign   Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:14 pm

Now, now. SIN, they are not going in using military force, they are going in through a political campaign. A single person, running for the office of the Independent State of Arizona. It is like elections, the states community votes who they want in office. In this case, it appears there is no other party running, other than a rebel party, and it seems out dated. SIN, you could always do the same thing in a different area. But, this method is mostly for attaining a home, not to be used to conquer the world. Try to remember we are trying to get groups established properly, to have a home base or home state, so they can at least have a home. Some groups could even operate out of just one base, if they wanted to. The less of a region a group owns, the better the world. This is one good reason why GPEO is withdrawing from most of its areas. Why hog the lad that many other factions could use. Hell, all factions in FSX could operate in the US, as different political alignments and goals.
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PostSubject: Re: Polictical Campaign   Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:34 am

So the virtual world's most wanted terrorist finally pops up from his hole.
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PostSubject: Re: Polictical Campaign   Sun Jun 03, 2012 7:59 am

SIN, at this point war is totally unnecsassary and unwanted. All we are trying to do if fairly squire Arizona to use a our home base as we establish our faction in the virtual world. If you are going to try to declare war, we will not recognize it until you register your group with the virtual world and we can see it on the forum. We are sorry for any confusion.
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PostSubject: Re: Polictical Campaign   Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:49 am

OCU agrees with the Black Aces and GPEO concerning this matter.
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PostSubject: Re: Polictical Campaign   Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:02 pm

Black Aces-obviously I already registered my group on the ITTN if I'm talking to you. The profile name is not "Black Wing". It's S.I.N. ...as in Syndicate Insurgency Network...as in Black Wing and Company. Also, if you're going to have operations then you need to make it so that others can join to interdict if they so chose, or else your sessions are not considered legit. You also have to post that you are having a session on the ITTN so others are aware and again have the opportunity to interdict. You can't claim an operation was a success if your rivals were not given the chance to stop you.

OCU-Nobody cares what you do and don't agree with. Yours is coming too.
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PostSubject: Re: Polictical Campaign   Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:51 pm

SIN- Once again your disrespect is pissing everyone off. Your group may be registered for the forum but your name must be listed on the New Forum Area: VR-World Factions area as our group as well as OCU, GPEO, ARC, and TFC are. Our sessions are always open so that shouldn't be a problem.
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PostSubject: Re: Polictical Campaign   Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:55 pm

Today an S.I.N. martyr departed from a private airport in Mexico on a mission to penetrated Arizona air space and crash his aircraft into the main weapons facility of Luke Air Force Base. He was intercepted by two Black Aces F-22A Raptors roughly 25 miles out. Flying a MiG-29A Fulcrum gen to our organization by wealthy supporters of our cause, our martyr managed to shoot down one F-22 before he was shot down by the other. We will see to it that his sacrifice was not made in vain. Our world wide insurgency will continue.

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PostSubject: Re: Polictical Campaign   Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:58 pm

There are three active groups who were activated before the new forum area was in effect. There are four rebel groups as well. Just because admin hasn't gotten around to putting their names up yet does not mean they are inactive. Also, rebel groups typically do not have moderators or their own section. Factions and governments do, but insurgencies and rebels do not.
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PostSubject: Re: Polictical Campaign   Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:04 pm

We need to get this story straight, your guy aka SIN Devil 1 never shot anyone down cause he did not say anything over the in game Comms. We clearly said multiple times that we were only training and that we would not engage him, only escort him back to Mexico. We intercepted Devil 1 120 nm to the South of Luke AFB and he did not get any closer than that. We were not defending AZ airspace, we were only training there because that is where we are campaigning at this time.

Personally from me to SIN, your incessant lying and immaturity are not going to get you far. You don't intimidate anyone cause you lie about everything. I'm sure that I'm not the only person to wish that you and your faction are not let into this world.

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PostSubject: Re: Polictical Campaign   Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:15 pm

SIN is all about propaganda. Lat time they talked for days about how they beat GPEO even though they never fired a shot or even flew a single sortie. Kind of hard to beat somebody when you never get into a session. All they did before was talk. At least they attempted to bring something to the table this time. Guess it just didn't work out for them in the end.

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PostSubject: Re: Polictical Campaign   Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:37 pm

"I'm sure that I'm not the only person to wish that you and your faction are not let into this world". LOL!! We were here long before you! Just laying low and keeping an eye on everybody, biding our time. You won our first engagement, and you deny the loss of Sniper. I enderstand it would hurt your pride too much to admit that you lost a brand new F-22 to an antiquated MiG-29. And that antiquated MiG-29 made you work for those 45 minutes until one of you finally got on his six and was able to stay there. That's okay. Now we know that we can take you in your most advanced fighters. And now that we've seen you fly we know what to do next time. And next time, it will be us who outnumber you. See you soon.


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PostSubject: Re: Polictical Campaign   Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:10 pm

Really, whats your problem dude? Im Sniper and no, your guy did not shoot me down. He may have been on my ass(for 2 seconds), but he never gave a count or anything to let me know he was even locking on. We were going around in circles for 45 minutes. We told your idiot of a pilot that we were unarmed and not engaging. By the way, we didn't lose any aircraft because you are not acknowledged for being in the world. As of right now, there are only 4 factions. And how about that loss of your Mig-29 when your guy crashed into the ground?? Where are you even getting your aircraft? You can't just have what you want, you need a way to buy them.

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PostSubject: Re: Polictical Campaign   Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:55 pm

OCU Executives agree with Back Aces-Sniper. That MiG-29 is considered lost and since it's remains are in Arizona, Black Aces are free to do with it whatever they like. We personally recommend that pics, or preferably video footage be taken while dogfighting. Unless there are third party witnesses to back up the claims of either sidej or another form of substantial evidence, neither side can be acknowledged. In this particular case however, SIN admits that they lost a MiG-29 which concurs with the statement made by Black Aces. We agree that the MiG-29 should be deemed as "destroyed" and no longer counted in the SIN inventory.

On the other hand, SIN does have a valid argument that rebel forces, insurgencies, and terrorist groups usually don't register. SIN does a have a website that dates back a year we believe (although it has not been updated since), and there is evidence of their involvement in cyber attacks and acts of sabotage that were acknowledged by all active VM's at that time. They have been considered a terrorist group by all active VMs since then and their leader on the GPEO and IDN most wanted list for a year.. Therefore, we cannot agree that they are not an active group. Perhaps the ITTN Administrators should make a final determination on this matter. We do however, highly doubt the legitimacy of SIN's supposed air to air kill of a Black Ace F-22A by way of a MiG-29. This much, we do not support.

The only agreeable conclusion according to OCU is that the SIN lost an aircraft today in a feeble attempt to stir up a hornet's nest.

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PostSubject: Re: Polictical Campaign   Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:17 pm

OCU, you brought up a point that I did not see. Insurgencies like SIN should not have to register as a faction but should be registered on the forum. As long a SIN agrees to fairly engage aircraft using the counting system and does not make attacks when the other factions are offline, I have no problem with them joining.

From our best understanding, to engage an aircraft with missles, you must be 1nm or closer and count one-one thousand to five-one thousand while the enemy aircraft is in the HUD and then fox2 and then missle impact or miss. A screenshot is also a good idea. To attack with guns, you must be .3 nm or less and say Guns, Guns, Guns. And once again confirm with a screenshot. All of this is to be done over in game comms thru voice.
That was my understanding of the rules, so please correct me if i'm wrong.

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PostSubject: Re: Polictical Campaign   Sun Jun 03, 2012 8:23 pm

You are absolutely correct.
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PostSubject: Re: Polictical Campaign   Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:19 pm

holy carap ! Yo, SIN leader. I was wondering of you knew what we were doing, before jumping into an attack. We are doing an experiment with the VR-World setting. The UIA is basically like the CIA and Behind the scenes staff of the VR-World. A person of every political alignment heading the UIA plays the role of Intel Director, and keeps in touch with leaders of factions for Intel, and organizing operations. These UIA Agents would gather from time to time to think up new political conflict scenarios for factions leaders to either act or dismiss on. In a way, like Reverend, Fury and Ghost had once said in the past, there needs to be a form of control in the world. Well, this is in some form, a method of control or moderation. UIA being the brains of the operation, if you catch my drift. I was hoping of forming a complete UIA council of Intel Agents to assist new groups and help guide them through their formation into a potential nation, depending on what the leader of the group wants. If you are up for it, contact me or MC Sics (Forum Staff) if you feel like forming properly in the VR-World. We would like to help you get on the same page as us, rather than popping into a session and attacking for no logical reason. Every political alignment has some form of problem against the other. If you will, and still want to be officially recognized by everyone, take that political compass and post your groups political alignment on your main site, as well as here in ITTN, since ITTN is like the hub for the VR-World.

I don't mean to cause friction among anyone in any personal way, just trying to help everyone get on the right page.
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