GPEO Dragnoxz
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Posts: 40
My post was deleted. I am deeply insulted. That deleting of my post has hurt the GPEO/FAF relations. Is there anything else FAF would like to do to hurt their relations with GPEO ?
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March 30, 2013 at 12:30 AM Flag Quote & Reply
Cody16508
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Posts: 115 What happened ?
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March 30, 2013 at 6:59 AM Flag Quote & Reply
Shadow
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Sorry. Your pos made no sense to me. Why do we need to know history!( common is this social studies ?) this is a diffremt VM then the old FAF. Yes we are the FAF still. But we have not participated in any battles. In my view the post was just taking up space.
Sorry.
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March 30, 2013 at 9:04 AM Flag Quote & Reply
tallviper
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FAF is a lone military we work best that way we tried yours and it didn't work out so find another vm
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March 30, 2013 at 10:00 AM Flag Quote & Reply
Shadow
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also, if you were hurt because someone deleted your post... really? are we all 3? it is a damn post!!, it can be recreated!!!!
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March 30, 2013 at 11:52 AM Flag Quote & Reply
GPEO Dragnoxz
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Posts: 40
The thing is, there was an issue, and your opponent claimed 6 kills, when they only had 4 all together. Like it or not, the history of FAF still exists, it all happened, fron Winggedmans leadership to him being voted out to your new ways of doing things.
I would like to know why you are having an issue, epsecially after I helped you guys ? I am NOT Wingged, your group is not mine, I only have been helping out, as an ally. What happened to Korey Mirical ?
Your most recent posts are not so friendly, not ally like. You NEVER tried my group, mine is GPEO. We are supposed to be in good relations. Are you seriousely trying to damage relations, or just having a bad day ?
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March 31, 2013 at 4:32 AM Flag Quote & Reply
GPEO Dragnoxz
Member
Posts: 40
After analizing how FAF's members have been treating us lately. I think we should cancel the fighter program, something I actually have lost sleep over by painting and painstakingly going into the game, editing the CFG, Air File, and trying new re-paints. Hthe following is the secret revield. The craft FAF will not get any time soon. I feel disrespected, personally, as well as shuned. I think you should have your primary leader contact me.
Was to be a gift for flying our troops over, but lower, immature and highly disrespectful FAF members have ruined it, for now. A group like FAF has so much potential, but lacks the proper leadership. Many groups have fallen, were defeated and disbanded due to the lack of maturity, leadership, and honor. Disrespecting allies, back stabbing them, rejecting their help as if they were mere nothing, after they do so much for their group they don't even know about. Like the Wikipidia site,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_military. read the bottom, your group is in the public, known to the world because of us, me personally. I was the one who posted your web site on there.
I am not looking for anything in return, I am trying to HELP your group thrive, to grow and to point out mistakes your group makes, to help get your group a foundation in the VR-World, and to try and help behind the scenes with recruitment, training, leadership, and with excitement. And look at what happens, I get disrespected by lower ranking members of this group I have helped, by putting asside my own group, and taking time out of my college homework to help out. You don't know how much I have done personally, that you don't know of. Trying to contact your leaders, to talk behind the scenes stuff, to try and help with operations and excitement. I am not here to conquer FAF or bash or take anything. By me helping your and other groups thrive, I am helping the entire VR-World community develop, so everyone can have FUN.
Now, I have a different agenda, a UIA agenda. But I may or may not put it into motion until your leader and I talk. I think the primary FAF or Firebird Gaming group's founder, GPEO, Uatia and RAF need to talk. All groups need a strong leader to leader communications. However, the more alienated you make us, the less we will be willing to help.
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March 31, 2013 at 5:18 AM Flag Quote & Reply
GPEO Dragnoxz
Member
Posts: 40
Shadow at March 30, 2013 at 11:52 AM
also, if you were hurt because someone deleted your post... really? are we all 3? it is a damn post!!, it can be recreated!!!!
The only thing hurt was the GPEO/FAF relations. I wrote allot, something that I may not remember. Beign re-created ? No, It would be different. Are you all 3 ? You should really look at your self, how you reacted to my post by deleting it. That is a sign of imaturity, you didn't seem get Korey Miracles permission (but I really don't know, do I ?) Nor is it me business, I guess), you deleted it on your own, out of perosnal opinion. While I am trying to gather facts, you remove the source I had posted to attain those facts, and such an act is against the recovery of facts. You doing such act makes the rest of FAF look bad, and not only to GPEO, but to other gorups as well.
In the VR-World, FAF has no official home, you are bunking in with GPEO in Turkey, which is a rish we are taking, considering we really didn't get permission from Turkey to let you operate in their bases. We are just given ability to operarte there, for defense and basing rights, we don't own Turkey. FAF is operating there for free, on behaf of GPEO, using Turkish fuel and facilities.
I talked to, or attempted to talk with your leader about the possible establishment of FAF in a small area of Egypt. It is a tactically good spot, rebels need leadership, they have conquered the Egyptian government there, and there are two bases, not in use by anyone, and the rebels can't use them due to the lack of training and know how. I am betting there are some aircraft stil lthere, supplies and ammo for fighters. The location is tactically good, a spot where FAF could strike anywere, from Libya to Syria, and is a good spot to block the Suez from enemy shipping. Industry would be good in oil, canal crossing fee, bridge fees, water purification and irrigation, construction, foudations of education in the region, which would allow the local economy to boom, with schools teaching for future jobs, jobs for your nation from engineering to farming, and construction. The population would have income, the FAF military assets would grow, naval facilities could be built (giving jobs to locals), factories built to produce aircraft, weapons, ammo, etc. Trade, exports of oil and imports of food and raw materials.
If you wanted to go to war with a group, and used Turkey as a staging point, it would ruin its relations with Turkey, make Turkey hate GPEO for allowing FAF to oeprate there, and your enemies would attack Turkey for allowing FAF to stage attacks from there. Your enemy at war with Turkey, GPEO kicked out, FAF no longer having a base to oeprate form, it would not look good. FAF would be defeated, without a base to operate form, without a home FAF has NOTHING in the VR-World. This is why I am stressing a near by place, easily defended from the ground, easily industrialized, vulnerable to your group leadership wise and politically, and can easily be formed into an official FAF nation. It is easy to set up, quick, and open for developmen.
That is all VR-World stuff your leaders should be looking into. Rank should come natrual. Your group has potential, has pilots that could use some excitement and fun. FAF could be great, but it must get past its ranking and TS issues if it has not done so already. Your groups active interaction with other groups is key to everyone having fun. If you don't want fun or interaction, or help, or anything to do with the VR-World, let me know. I can remove your site from Wikipedia and put your faction into the old factions section on the ITTN forum.
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March 31, 2013 at 6:23 AM Flag Quote & Reply
Shadow
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Posts: 383
GPEO Dragnoxz at March 31, 2013 at 6:23 AM
Shadow at March 30, 2013 at 11:52 AM
also, if you were hurt because someone deleted your post... really? are we all 3? it is a damn post!!, it can be recreated!!!!
The only thing hurt was the GPEO/FAF relations. I wrote allot, something that I may not remember. Beign re-created ? No, It would be different. Are you all 3 ? You should really look at your self, how you reacted to my post by deleting it. That is a sign of imaturity, you didn't seem get Korey Miracles permission (but I really don't know, do I ?) Nor is it me business, I guess), you deleted it on your own, out of perosnal opinion. While I am trying to gather facts, you remove the source I had posted to attain those facts, and such an act is against the recovery of facts. You doing such act makes the rest of FAF look bad, and not only to GPEO, but to other gorups as well.
In the VR-World, FAF has no official home, you are bunking in with GPEO in Turkey, which is a rish we are taking, considering we really didn't get permission from Turkey to let you operate in their bases. We are just given ability to operarte there, for defense and basing rights, we don't own Turkey. FAF is operating there for free, on behaf of GPEO, using Turkish fuel and facilities.
I talked to, or attempted to talk with your leader about the possible establishment of FAF in a small area of Egypt. It is a tactically good spot, rebels need leadership, they have conquered the Egyptian government there, and there are two bases, not in use by anyone, and the rebels can't use them due to the lack of training and know how. I am betting there are some aircraft stil lthere, supplies and ammo for fighters. The location is tactically good, a spot where FAF could strike anywere, from Libya to Syria, and is a good spot to block the Suez from enemy shipping. Industry would be good in oil, canal crossing fee, bridge fees, water purification and irrigation, construction, foudations of education in the region, which would allow the local economy to boom, with schools teaching for future jobs, jobs for your nation from engineering to farming, and construction. The population would have income, the FAF military assets would grow, naval facilities could be built (giving jobs to locals), factories built to produce aircraft, weapons, ammo, etc. Trade, exports of oil and imports of food and raw materials.
If you wanted to go to war with a group, and used Turkey as a staging point, it would ruin its relations with Turkey, make Turkey hate GPEO for allowing FAF to oeprate there, and your enemies would attack Turkey for allowing FAF to stage attacks from there. Your enemy at war with Turkey, GPEO kicked out, FAF no longer having a base to oeprate form, it would not look good. FAF would be defeated, without a base to operate form, without a home FAF has NOTHING in the VR-World. This is why I am stressing a near by place, easily defended from the ground, easily industrialized, vulnerable to your group leadership wise and politically, and can easily be formed into an official FAF nation. It is easy to set up, quick, and open for developmen.
That is all VR-World stuff your leaders should be looking into. Rank should come natrual. Your group has potential, has pilots that could use some excitement and fun. FAF could be great, but it must get past its ranking and TS issues if it has not done so already. Your groups active interaction with other groups is key to everyone having fun. If you don't want fun or interaction, or help, or anything to do with the VR-World, let me know. I can remove your site from Wikipedia and put your faction into the old factions section on the ITTN forum.
Dragon, I would like to explain how you got on to my bad side: I was always wanting to help with transport, but I don't have time to do 15 10 hour flights, ( for cargo) I wanted to use something bigger: " oh, how about an antonov an-225?" you said" no only one exists in the VR word, It would half to be built" seriously? Built? I get you like to keep it realistic, but not everyone does. ( I like a little realism). But enough is enough. You and me slowly declined, and then when you posted: newzeland fighter air history? Really? Did we even participate? Yes the old FAF did, but we DID NOT. So why the post? " so everyone can get there facts straight" and to need koreys premission( I don't think I need it, I am a moderator) and also, dragon, I don't really like roleplaying games, if I do it, it is in the real world, not jus adding a troop to an excell spread sheet ( or how ever you do it). So I played along for a while ( mostly because we never herd from you) then., you come on and want help with troop transport, I say ok, we have a..... Then I say let's use a 797 BWB, you say, well I need some plans to give to a componay to build it. Really? Were do you get plans for how to build a damn 797 I dont think Boeing will have them laying around( do you?) and am I 3? Hell no. ( age is undisclosed), and you are saying you would Make the FAF look bad? Ha, in what? Dragon we are not a group that only does VM, we have a gaming part, an airline, and te AF can be just for fun. And with all of this? It ain't on fun any more. And once again, what is the problem? I was a damn post. About history!! And about the fights... Really, we are just adding them to an excell spread sheet? ROLEPLAYING. and what does it matter if we have a base? We had te cability of aircrafts that can go over 9000 nm, we can be in the air for an total of around 22 hours.
And THAT is we're the FAF is HAPPY.
THIS TOPIC IS CLOSED
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" Our passion for flight is endless, although our time as a group is not"- FAF731, Sam Melvin
March 31, 2013 at 9:30 AM Flag Quote & Reply
tallviper
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Posts: 81
Shadow at March 31, 2013 at 9:30 AM
GPEO Dragnoxz at March 31, 2013 at 6:23 AM
Shadow at March 30, 2013 at 11:52 AM
also, if you were hurt because someone deleted your post... really? are we all 3? it is a damn post!!, it can be recreated!!!!
The only thing hurt was the GPEO/FAF relations. I wrote allot, something that I may not remember. Beign re-created ? No, It would be different. Are you all 3 ? You should really look at your self, how you reacted to my post by deleting it. That is a sign of imaturity, you didn't seem get Korey Miracles permission (but I really don't know, do I ?) Nor is it me business, I guess), you deleted it on your own, out of perosnal opinion. While I am trying to gather facts, you remove the source I had posted to attain those facts, and such an act is against the recovery of facts. You doing such act makes the rest of FAF look bad, and not only to GPEO, but to other gorups as well.
In the VR-World, FAF has no official home, you are bunking in with GPEO in Turkey, which is a rish we are taking, considering we really didn't get permission from Turkey to let you operate in their bases. We are just given ability to operarte there, for defense and basing rights, we don't own Turkey. FAF is operating there for free, on behaf of GPEO, using Turkish fuel and facilities.
I talked to, or attempted to talk with your leader about the possible establishment of FAF in a small area of Egypt. It is a tactically good spot, rebels need leadership, they have conquered the Egyptian government there, and there are two bases, not in use by anyone, and the rebels can't use them due to the lack of training and know how. I am betting there are some aircraft stil lthere, supplies and ammo for fighters. The location is tactically good, a spot where FAF could strike anywere, from Libya to Syria, and is a good spot to block the Suez from enemy shipping. Industry would be good in oil, canal crossing fee, bridge fees, water purification and irrigation, construction, foudations of education in the region, which would allow the local economy to boom, with schools teaching for future jobs, jobs for your nation from engineering to farming, and construction. The population would have income, the FAF military assets would grow, naval facilities could be built (giving jobs to locals), factories built to produce aircraft, weapons, ammo, etc. Trade, exports of oil and imports of food and raw materials.
If you wanted to go to war with a group, and used Turkey as a staging point, it would ruin its relations with Turkey, make Turkey hate GPEO for allowing FAF to oeprate there, and your enemies would attack Turkey for allowing FAF to stage attacks from there. Your enemy at war with Turkey, GPEO kicked out, FAF no longer having a base to oeprate form, it would not look good. FAF would be defeated, without a base to operate form, without a home FAF has NOTHING in the VR-World. This is why I am stressing a near by place, easily defended from the ground, easily industrialized, vulnerable to your group leadership wise and politically, and can easily be formed into an official FAF nation. It is easy to set up, quick, and open for developmen.
That is all VR-World stuff your leaders should be looking into. Rank should come natrual. Your group has potential, has pilots that could use some excitement and fun. FAF could be great, but it must get past its ranking and TS issues if it has not done so already. Your groups active interaction with other groups is key to everyone having fun. If you don't want fun or interaction, or help, or anything to do with the VR-World, let me know. I can remove your site from Wikipedia and put your faction into the old factions section on the ITTN forum.
Dragon, I would like to explain how you got on to my bad side: I was always wanting to help with transport, but I don't have time to do 15 10 hour flights, ( for cargo) I wanted to use something bigger: " oh, how about an antonov an-225?" you said" no only one exists in the VR word, It would half to be built" seriously? Built? I get you like to keep it realistic, but not everyone does. ( I like a little realism). But enough is enough. You and me slowly declined, and then when you posted: newzeland fighter air history? Really? Did we even participate? Yes the old FAF did, but we DID NOT. So why the post? " so everyone can get there facts straight" and to need koreys premission( I don't think I need it, I am a moderator) and also, dragon, I don't really like roleplaying games, if I do it, it is in the real world, not jus adding a troop to an excell spread sheet ( or how ever you do it). So I played along for a while ( mostly because we never herd from you) then., you come on and want help with troop transport, I say ok, we have a..... Then I say let's use a 797 BWB, you say, well I need some plans to give to a componay to build it. Really? Were do you get plans for how to build a damn 797 I dont think Boeing will have them laying around( do you?) and am I 3? Hell no. ( age is undisclosed), and you are saying you would Make the FAF look bad? Ha, in what? Dragon we are not a group that only does VM, we have a gaming part, an airline, and te AF can be just for fun. And with all of this? It ain't on fun any more. And once again, what is the problem? I was a damn post. About history!! And about the fights... Really, we are just adding them to an excell spread sheet? ROLEPLAYING. and what does it matter if we have a base? We had te cability of aircrafts that can go over 9000 nm, we can be in the air for an total of around 22 hours.
And THAT is we're the FAF is HAPPY.
THIS TOPIC IS CLOSED
Everyone calm down we will discuss this when were all chilled
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March 31, 2013 at 3:03 PM Flag Quote & Reply
vishaank010
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Posts: 81 Comment removed-sam melvin
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April 2, 2013 at 6:50 PM Flag Quote & Reply
Cody16508
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Posts: 115 OK this has got to end. I'm sorry DRA but I'm going to have to pit a vote here. Say yes for DRA to go and not come back. Or. Vote no. For him to stay? Vote nicely plss. I'm not going to have this happen because if new people come on and see use fighting there not going to join. So I'm stopping it here and NOW
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April 3, 2013 at 8:29 AM Flag Quote & Reply
Shadow
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Posts: 383
Yes.
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April 3, 2013 at 9:17 AM Flag Quote & Reply
GPEO Dragnoxz
Member
Posts: 40
DRA, better not mean me. There is no fight, it is a dispute, there is a difference. There is no personal bashing or harmful language being used, or any offensive slander. If I am to be removed from this forum, that is just wrong and immature. I am not causing trouble, I am simply protesting that a post I made was removed unjustified. I am acting as an adult, and I am an adult, and removing a mature adult would look worse thatn actually communicating and talking about issues. Simply ending the talk proves that one side does not want to listen to someone protest about their unjustified removed post.
Who is anyone on here (other than Korey Miracle) to decide to call for a vote to remove the leader of another group ? This is Korey Miracles group, and I am a LEADER of another group. It should be him to call for a vote to remove anyoen. Removing me without his knowledge of what is going on is messed up. As a leader of another group, I reserve my right to political immunity while being on here and in the Team Speak server, unless Korey Miracle is the one to do such removal. You, if you have any leadership in you, should examine the issue, and come to a logical conclution to solve the issue.
Removing someone over a simple complaint will make much more issues in the long run for the group. Korey Miracle should see these posts before acting based on personal interestes. As well as his and my direct communication. And another thing, you can't make an issue by ignoring it and thinking it will go away. It only serves to make more issues by not solving the original ones. I am right in protesting a removed thread, because it was in fact unjustified. I reserve the right of GPEO to act upon an additional removed thread, and bring sanctions to the table, including other factions who justm ight not like to deal with such immaturity.
My post was removed only because of a persons negative personal feelings toward that subject. And it was acted upon by personal feelings, and not reasonable or logical grounds. Removing me, and others would conclude that this group is run not by Korey Mirical (The founder and primary leader of the group). I also notice a comment removed, that is a violation of free speech unless it is abusive, but then again, some of the members of FAF may not truely support FREE SPEECH. I know the FAF rules, and I see admins breaking rules and making thier own personal choices based on opinions rather than logic.
You SHOULD really get Korey Miracle to read these before ever removing them. Because I have kept a log of these, and will show him should he not have a chance to view them if they are removed, in an additionaly unjust deletion of a justified post. That will make it multiple posts I have made, and that will only add to the damage of GPEO and FAF's relations.
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