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PostSubject: GPEO-FAF Relations Decline   Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:11 pm


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My post was deleted. I am deeply insulted. That deleting of my post has hurt the GPEO/FAF relations. Is there anything else FAF would like to do to hurt their relations with GPEO ?
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March 30, 2013 at 12:30 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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March 30, 2013 at 6:59 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Sorry. Your pos made no sense to me. Why do we need to know history!( common is this social studies ?) this is a diffremt VM then the old FAF. Yes we are the FAF still. But we have not participated in any battles. In my view the post was just taking up space.

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March 30, 2013 at 9:04 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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FAF is a lone military we work best that way we tried yours and it didn't work out so find another vm
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March 30, 2013 at 10:00 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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also, if you were hurt because someone deleted your post... really? are we all 3? it is a damn post!!, it can be recreated!!!!
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March 30, 2013 at 11:52 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The thing is, there was an issue, and your opponent claimed 6 kills, when they only had 4 all together. Like it or not, the history of FAF still exists, it all happened, fron Winggedmans leadership to him being voted out to your new ways of doing things.

I would like to know why you are having an issue, epsecially after I helped you guys ? I am NOT Wingged, your group is not mine, I only have been helping out, as an ally. What happened to Korey Mirical ?

Your most recent posts are not so friendly, not ally like. You NEVER tried my group, mine is GPEO. We are supposed to be in good relations. Are you seriousely trying to damage relations, or just having a bad day ?
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March 31, 2013 at 4:32 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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After analizing how FAF's members have been treating us lately. I think we should cancel the fighter program, something I actually have lost sleep over by painting and painstakingly going into the game, editing the CFG, Air File, and trying new re-paints. Hthe following is the secret revield. The craft FAF will not get any time soon. I feel disrespected, personally, as well as shuned. I think you should have your primary leader contact me.


Was to be a gift for flying our troops over, but lower, immature and highly disrespectful FAF members have ruined it, for now. A group like FAF has so much potential, but lacks the proper leadership. Many groups have fallen, were defeated and disbanded due to the lack of maturity, leadership, and honor. Disrespecting allies, back stabbing them, rejecting their help as if they were mere nothing, after they do so much for their group they don't even know about. Like the Wikipidia site, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_military. read the bottom, your group is in the public, known to the world because of us, me personally. I was the one who posted your web site on there.


I am not looking for anything in return, I am trying to HELP your group thrive, to grow and to point out mistakes your group makes, to help get your group a foundation in the VR-World, and to try and help behind the scenes with recruitment, training, leadership, and with excitement. And look at what happens, I get disrespected by lower ranking members of this group I have helped, by putting asside my own group, and taking time out of my college homework to help out. You don't know how much I have done personally, that you don't know of. Trying to contact your leaders, to talk behind the scenes stuff, to try and help with operations and excitement. I am not here to conquer FAF or bash or take anything. By me helping your and other groups thrive, I am helping the entire VR-World community develop, so everyone can have FUN.

Now, I have a different agenda, a UIA agenda. But I may or may not put it into motion until your leader and I talk. I think the primary FAF or Firebird Gaming group's founder, GPEO, Uatia and RAF need to talk. All groups need a strong leader to leader communications. However, the more alienated you make us, the less we will be willing to help.
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March 31, 2013 at 5:18 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Shadow at March 30, 2013 at 11:52 AM

also, if you were hurt because someone deleted your post... really? are we all 3? it is a damn post!!, it can be recreated!!!!

The only thing hurt was the GPEO/FAF relations. I wrote allot, something that I may not remember. Beign re-created ? No, It would be different. Are you all 3 ? You should really look at your self, how you reacted to my post by deleting it. That is a sign of imaturity, you didn't seem get Korey Miracles permission (but I really don't know, do I ?) Nor is it me business, I guess), you deleted it on your own, out of perosnal opinion. While I am trying to gather facts, you remove the source I had posted to attain those facts, and such an act is against the recovery of facts. You doing such act makes the rest of FAF look bad, and not only to GPEO, but to other gorups as well.

In the VR-World, FAF has no official home, you are bunking in with GPEO in Turkey, which is a rish we are taking, considering we really didn't get permission from Turkey to let you operate in their bases. We are just given ability to operarte there, for defense and basing rights, we don't own Turkey. FAF is operating there for free, on behaf of GPEO, using Turkish fuel and facilities.

I talked to, or attempted to talk with your leader about the possible establishment of FAF in a small area of Egypt. It is a tactically good spot, rebels need leadership, they have conquered the Egyptian government there, and there are two bases, not in use by anyone, and the rebels can't use them due to the lack of training and know how. I am betting there are some aircraft stil lthere, supplies and ammo for fighters. The location is tactically good, a spot where FAF could strike anywere, from Libya to Syria, and is a good spot to block the Suez from enemy shipping. Industry would be good in oil, canal crossing fee, bridge fees, water purification and irrigation, construction, foudations of education in the region, which would allow the local economy to boom, with schools teaching for future jobs, jobs for your nation from engineering to farming, and construction. The population would have income, the FAF military assets would grow, naval facilities could be built (giving jobs to locals), factories built to produce aircraft, weapons, ammo, etc. Trade, exports of oil and imports of food and raw materials.

If you wanted to go to war with a group, and used Turkey as a staging point, it would ruin its relations with Turkey, make Turkey hate GPEO for allowing FAF to oeprate there, and your enemies would attack Turkey for allowing FAF to stage attacks from there. Your enemy at war with Turkey, GPEO kicked out, FAF no longer having a base to oeprate form, it would not look good. FAF would be defeated, without a base to operate form, without a home FAF has NOTHING in the VR-World. This is why I am stressing a near by place, easily defended from the ground, easily industrialized, vulnerable to your group leadership wise and politically, and can easily be formed into an official FAF nation. It is easy to set up, quick, and open for developmen.

That is all VR-World stuff your leaders should be looking into. Rank should come natrual. Your group has potential, has pilots that could use some excitement and fun. FAF could be great, but it must get past its ranking and TS issues if it has not done so already. Your groups active interaction with other groups is key to everyone having fun. If you don't want fun or interaction, or help, or anything to do with the VR-World, let me know. I can remove your site from Wikipedia and put your faction into the old factions section on the ITTN forum.
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March 31, 2013 at 6:23 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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GPEO Dragnoxz at March 31, 2013 at 6:23 AM

Shadow at March 30, 2013 at 11:52 AM

also, if you were hurt because someone deleted your post... really? are we all 3? it is a damn post!!, it can be recreated!!!!

The only thing hurt was the GPEO/FAF relations. I wrote allot, something that I may not remember. Beign re-created ? No, It would be different. Are you all 3 ? You should really look at your self, how you reacted to my post by deleting it. That is a sign of imaturity, you didn't seem get Korey Miracles permission (but I really don't know, do I ?) Nor is it me business, I guess), you deleted it on your own, out of perosnal opinion. While I am trying to gather facts, you remove the source I had posted to attain those facts, and such an act is against the recovery of facts. You doing such act makes the rest of FAF look bad, and not only to GPEO, but to other gorups as well.

In the VR-World, FAF has no official home, you are bunking in with GPEO in Turkey, which is a rish we are taking, considering we really didn't get permission from Turkey to let you operate in their bases. We are just given ability to operarte there, for defense and basing rights, we don't own Turkey. FAF is operating there for free, on behaf of GPEO, using Turkish fuel and facilities.

I talked to, or attempted to talk with your leader about the possible establishment of FAF in a small area of Egypt. It is a tactically good spot, rebels need leadership, they have conquered the Egyptian government there, and there are two bases, not in use by anyone, and the rebels can't use them due to the lack of training and know how. I am betting there are some aircraft stil lthere, supplies and ammo for fighters. The location is tactically good, a spot where FAF could strike anywere, from Libya to Syria, and is a good spot to block the Suez from enemy shipping. Industry would be good in oil, canal crossing fee, bridge fees, water purification and irrigation, construction, foudations of education in the region, which would allow the local economy to boom, with schools teaching for future jobs, jobs for your nation from engineering to farming, and construction. The population would have income, the FAF military assets would grow, naval facilities could be built (giving jobs to locals), factories built to produce aircraft, weapons, ammo, etc. Trade, exports of oil and imports of food and raw materials.

If you wanted to go to war with a group, and used Turkey as a staging point, it would ruin its relations with Turkey, make Turkey hate GPEO for allowing FAF to oeprate there, and your enemies would attack Turkey for allowing FAF to stage attacks from there. Your enemy at war with Turkey, GPEO kicked out, FAF no longer having a base to oeprate form, it would not look good. FAF would be defeated, without a base to operate form, without a home FAF has NOTHING in the VR-World. This is why I am stressing a near by place, easily defended from the ground, easily industrialized, vulnerable to your group leadership wise and politically, and can easily be formed into an official FAF nation. It is easy to set up, quick, and open for developmen.

That is all VR-World stuff your leaders should be looking into. Rank should come natrual. Your group has potential, has pilots that could use some excitement and fun. FAF could be great, but it must get past its ranking and TS issues if it has not done so already. Your groups active interaction with other groups is key to everyone having fun. If you don't want fun or interaction, or help, or anything to do with the VR-World, let me know. I can remove your site from Wikipedia and put your faction into the old factions section on the ITTN forum.

Dragon, I would like to explain how you got on to my bad side: I was always wanting to help with transport, but I don't have time to do 15 10 hour flights, ( for cargo) I wanted to use something bigger: " oh, how about an antonov an-225?" you said" no only one exists in the VR word, It would half to be built" seriously? Built? I get you like to keep it realistic, but not everyone does. ( I like a little realism). But enough is enough. You and me slowly declined, and then when you posted: newzeland fighter air history? Really? Did we even participate? Yes the old FAF did, but we DID NOT. So why the post? " so everyone can get there facts straight" and to need koreys premission( I don't think I need it, I am a moderator) and also, dragon, I don't really like roleplaying games, if I do it, it is in the real world, not jus adding a troop to an excell spread sheet ( or how ever you do it). So I played along for a while ( mostly because we never herd from you) then., you come on and want help with troop transport, I say ok, we have a..... Then I say let's use a 797 BWB, you say, well I need some plans to give to a componay to build it. Really? Were do you get plans for how to build a damn 797 I dont think Boeing will have them laying around( do you?) and am I 3? Hell no. ( age is undisclosed), and you are saying you would Make the FAF look bad? Ha, in what? Dragon we are not a group that only does VM, we have a gaming part, an airline, and te AF can be just for fun. And with all of this? It ain't on fun any more. And once again, what is the problem? I was a damn post. About history!! And about the fights... Really, we are just adding them to an excell spread sheet? ROLEPLAYING. and what does it matter if we have a base? We had te cability of aircrafts that can go over 9000 nm, we can be in the air for an total of around 22 hours.

And THAT is we're the FAF is HAPPY.


THIS TOPIC IS CLOSED
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March 31, 2013 at 9:30 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Shadow at March 31, 2013 at 9:30 AM

GPEO Dragnoxz at March 31, 2013 at 6:23 AM

Shadow at March 30, 2013 at 11:52 AM

also, if you were hurt because someone deleted your post... really? are we all 3? it is a damn post!!, it can be recreated!!!!

The only thing hurt was the GPEO/FAF relations. I wrote allot, something that I may not remember. Beign re-created ? No, It would be different. Are you all 3 ? You should really look at your self, how you reacted to my post by deleting it. That is a sign of imaturity, you didn't seem get Korey Miracles permission (but I really don't know, do I ?) Nor is it me business, I guess), you deleted it on your own, out of perosnal opinion. While I am trying to gather facts, you remove the source I had posted to attain those facts, and such an act is against the recovery of facts. You doing such act makes the rest of FAF look bad, and not only to GPEO, but to other gorups as well.

In the VR-World, FAF has no official home, you are bunking in with GPEO in Turkey, which is a rish we are taking, considering we really didn't get permission from Turkey to let you operate in their bases. We are just given ability to operarte there, for defense and basing rights, we don't own Turkey. FAF is operating there for free, on behaf of GPEO, using Turkish fuel and facilities.

I talked to, or attempted to talk with your leader about the possible establishment of FAF in a small area of Egypt. It is a tactically good spot, rebels need leadership, they have conquered the Egyptian government there, and there are two bases, not in use by anyone, and the rebels can't use them due to the lack of training and know how. I am betting there are some aircraft stil lthere, supplies and ammo for fighters. The location is tactically good, a spot where FAF could strike anywere, from Libya to Syria, and is a good spot to block the Suez from enemy shipping. Industry would be good in oil, canal crossing fee, bridge fees, water purification and irrigation, construction, foudations of education in the region, which would allow the local economy to boom, with schools teaching for future jobs, jobs for your nation from engineering to farming, and construction. The population would have income, the FAF military assets would grow, naval facilities could be built (giving jobs to locals), factories built to produce aircraft, weapons, ammo, etc. Trade, exports of oil and imports of food and raw materials.

If you wanted to go to war with a group, and used Turkey as a staging point, it would ruin its relations with Turkey, make Turkey hate GPEO for allowing FAF to oeprate there, and your enemies would attack Turkey for allowing FAF to stage attacks from there. Your enemy at war with Turkey, GPEO kicked out, FAF no longer having a base to oeprate form, it would not look good. FAF would be defeated, without a base to operate form, without a home FAF has NOTHING in the VR-World. This is why I am stressing a near by place, easily defended from the ground, easily industrialized, vulnerable to your group leadership wise and politically, and can easily be formed into an official FAF nation. It is easy to set up, quick, and open for developmen.

That is all VR-World stuff your leaders should be looking into. Rank should come natrual. Your group has potential, has pilots that could use some excitement and fun. FAF could be great, but it must get past its ranking and TS issues if it has not done so already. Your groups active interaction with other groups is key to everyone having fun. If you don't want fun or interaction, or help, or anything to do with the VR-World, let me know. I can remove your site from Wikipedia and put your faction into the old factions section on the ITTN forum.

Dragon, I would like to explain how you got on to my bad side: I was always wanting to help with transport, but I don't have time to do 15 10 hour flights, ( for cargo) I wanted to use something bigger: " oh, how about an antonov an-225?" you said" no only one exists in the VR word, It would half to be built" seriously? Built? I get you like to keep it realistic, but not everyone does. ( I like a little realism). But enough is enough. You and me slowly declined, and then when you posted: newzeland fighter air history? Really? Did we even participate? Yes the old FAF did, but we DID NOT. So why the post? " so everyone can get there facts straight" and to need koreys premission( I don't think I need it, I am a moderator) and also, dragon, I don't really like roleplaying games, if I do it, it is in the real world, not jus adding a troop to an excell spread sheet ( or how ever you do it). So I played along for a while ( mostly because we never herd from you) then., you come on and want help with troop transport, I say ok, we have a..... Then I say let's use a 797 BWB, you say, well I need some plans to give to a componay to build it. Really? Were do you get plans for how to build a damn 797 I dont think Boeing will have them laying around( do you?) and am I 3? Hell no. ( age is undisclosed), and you are saying you would Make the FAF look bad? Ha, in what? Dragon we are not a group that only does VM, we have a gaming part, an airline, and te AF can be just for fun. And with all of this? It ain't on fun any more. And once again, what is the problem? I was a damn post. About history!! And about the fights... Really, we are just adding them to an excell spread sheet? ROLEPLAYING. and what does it matter if we have a base? We had te cability of aircrafts that can go over 9000 nm, we can be in the air for an total of around 22 hours.

And THAT is we're the FAF is HAPPY.


THIS TOPIC IS CLOSED

Everyone calm down we will discuss this when were all chilled
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April 2, 2013 at 6:50 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Posts: 115 OK this has got to end. I'm sorry DRA but I'm going to have to pit a vote here. Say yes for DRA to go and not come back. Or. Vote no. For him to stay? Vote nicely plss. I'm not going to have this happen because if new people come on and see use fighting there not going to join. So I'm stopping it here and NOW
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April 3, 2013 at 8:29 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Yes.
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April 3, 2013 at 9:17 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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DRA, better not mean me. There is no fight, it is a dispute, there is a difference. There is no personal bashing or harmful language being used, or any offensive slander. If I am to be removed from this forum, that is just wrong and immature. I am not causing trouble, I am simply protesting that a post I made was removed unjustified. I am acting as an adult, and I am an adult, and removing a mature adult would look worse thatn actually communicating and talking about issues. Simply ending the talk proves that one side does not want to listen to someone protest about their unjustified removed post.


Who is anyone on here (other than Korey Miracle) to decide to call for a vote to remove the leader of another group ? This is Korey Miracles group, and I am a LEADER of another group. It should be him to call for a vote to remove anyoen. Removing me without his knowledge of what is going on is messed up. As a leader of another group, I reserve my right to political immunity while being on here and in the Team Speak server, unless Korey Miracle is the one to do such removal. You, if you have any leadership in you, should examine the issue, and come to a logical conclution to solve the issue.


Removing someone over a simple complaint will make much more issues in the long run for the group. Korey Miracle should see these posts before acting based on personal interestes. As well as his and my direct communication. And another thing, you can't make an issue by ignoring it and thinking it will go away. It only serves to make more issues by not solving the original ones. I am right in protesting a removed thread, because it was in fact unjustified. I reserve the right of GPEO to act upon an additional removed thread, and bring sanctions to the table, including other factions who justm ight not like to deal with such immaturity.


My post was removed only because of a persons negative personal feelings toward that subject. And it was acted upon by personal feelings, and not reasonable or logical grounds. Removing me, and others would conclude that this group is run not by Korey Mirical (The founder and primary leader of the group). I also notice a comment removed, that is a violation of free speech unless it is abusive, but then again, some of the members of FAF may not truely support FREE SPEECH. I know the FAF rules, and I see admins breaking rules and making thier own personal choices based on opinions rather than logic.

You SHOULD really get Korey Miracle to read these before ever removing them. Because I have kept a log of these, and will show him should he not have a chance to view them if they are removed, in an additionaly unjust deletion of a justified post. That will make it multiple posts I have made, and that will only add to the damage of GPEO and FAF's relations.


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PostSubject: Re: GPEO-FAF Relations Decline   Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:12 pm

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Closing a topic when YOU are done with it does NOT mean the person who opened the topic is done. It is a direct insult to GPEO to prevent the ability to state and defend itself by preventing us from continueing the topic. I bet if someone declared WAR on FAF in the VR-World and Shadow was in charge, FAF would run away from the VR-World, and become like FSXF, a recluse faction.

You have demonstrated a lack of Free Speech, for that it makes GPEO grow more distaste toward you. You have abused your powers, and openlly show your lack of respect toward another faction. You make FAF look dull and closed-minded.

Now I am not being disrespectful, I am makign statements of truth. FAF needs to cleanse itself of imature members, because those are the members that bring the downfall of groups. I have seen it too many times. If you want to make all of the choices for Korey Miracles group, and bring its down fall, be my guest. Go and run from the VR-World, hinder its growth. I can remove the FAF site from Wikipedia, trash that fighter after all of the work I done on it, and ditch trying to help FAF out. Because of ONE of you thinking he can make importnat choices for FAF, it will decline.

For a group of closed-minded imature members, the VR-World does not need it. For it would be unworthy for the VR-World. Many groups have already wrote FAF off as an imature, child run rampant group of idiots. But, I didn't, I stood by and actually cared, and tried to help when I could. Only to get slapped and then spit on in the face by a pathetic future coup dictator who is against freedom of speech, honor and respect.
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March 31, 2013 at 11:25 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Hello? Did you see tall viper ( a genral) say : we will descus this when we have cooled down? .well i did!!! And how fourtinet i am not a genral!! It is not my decsion about wreather we run or flight!!! The GPEO has no need to defend its self. Because it did nothing wrong!!!!! And i make NO choices for this group!!! We will continue this when we are on TS!!!
April 1, 2013 at 9:15 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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Dragon,I am not am not sure what your problem is, it was a simple fourm post, sabout a newzeland air battle history!! It was not anything important ( was it)? It s just getting old with you. I will continue this with you on TS. It is done on here.
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April 1, 2013 at 9:57 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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The NZ thing, was it important ? YES IT IS IMPORTANT, and I EXPLAINED it on the forum post. Now, I do apoloagies if I came across harsh, however I am justified because the post was removed before everyone could read it and post their accounts, and I am justified to be upset, especially when I psot something and it is removed, it to me is a slap in the face perosnally, AND it is a direct insult to the grojup I lead, regarding free speech. however, I do understand FAF is not GPEO, and that FAF may not care for free speech or freedom at all. And if that is the case, regardless, GPEO will break away from FAF, because we can't affod to be standing for the cause of freedom and have allies who don't support freedom. We recognize that actions speak louder than words, and deleting forum posts that are not offensive or defacing a group is a direct restriction of free speech. It especially insults a group when it is an official post of request of information. YOU may not care, but the entire VR-World community HAS to have that information, for historical logs and reference. YOU may not value history, and that is ok. You may never learn from your past, and we don't care, and if you don't want to get involved in helping us research the history of the VR-World, you don't have to. But to prevent us from attaining the information, that is just insulting and disrespectful. And you really have made me think of you in a different way, as a person. So WHAT if YOU don't think someting is valubal. You should learn to respect that OTHERS do value things you don't value.

We need that information of the NZ battle to confirm what happened by both sides. The issue is that they claim mroe kills than they really got. THey claim 6 when I remember them having 4, and if FAF can confirm they only had 4, then we confirm they are tryingto claim mroe than they actually got. The reason I am doign this is because it is the right thing to do. It is not right for someone to cheaply claim something they really didn't have. If you were not there, it is obviousely you don't feel it is important. And you don't have to get involved if you did not take part int he battle. I am looking for those who were there, not those who heard about it.

And a good reason I do't want to go into that TS to talk about this is because I know for a FACT that if you have adminitrator powers, I could get banned, like in the past, because someoen gets upset and can't handle facts or the truth. I don't lke getting kicked, even when my friends are just playing around, and to get banned a few times is messed up, especially if I ask a question. I don't need YOU or ANYONE ELSE to dictate to me what I will or will not do. And that is ok, because if FAF turns out to be an anti freedom group, then it will give a very good VR-World conflict, the only problem is that FAF has no home in the VR-World, and it is really not a good idea to be a few bees based in the middle of a hornets nest, and try to wage a war. It is like being a moth based in an ant nest, no moth can escape.

Another reason I don't think we should talk abotu this in TS if because I could be in the middle of talking, and be talked over by immature individuals who may begin to express overreaction and emotion that will end up making them get all upset to where they will abuse thier powers and kick or ban me. Here, at least I can sayt what I need to say, and you actually READ it and understand where I am coming from. Plus, there is no distractions of yelling or complaining or protesting, it is all in word and not.

Also, if I make a thread, I shold be the one to dictate when I want to make a close on the topic, and when I am done talking about what I want to talk about. that is considered FREE SPEECH. Again, if you and FAF don't like free speech, I will no longer be here to help.

You are right, GPEO did nothing wrong, we only want historical information, or should I say, the VR-World needs some historical information. You could be a help and try to find those who were there, but it looks like you would rather remove posts. In the VR-World community, all groups respect the historical aspects, and FAF has a history, even if it changes leadership and system of internal government. From the time Wingged lead the military to his voting out, to the multiple internal structure issues and TS problems, to every battle, kill, triuph and down fall. Everything is recorded, and the good groups learn form their mistakes, and change over time. Uatia is a very good example of a group that has evolved from a small nomadic group, to a now forming nation. But, I don't expect you to understand these things, that is why I posted on the forum here the request for historical information, in hopes that someone in a high leadership position or those who were there can tell their side of the stories. Historians to the same thing in the real world. History is a part of life, and modern civilization.

Also, closing that forum would have prevented the need for me to post another topic like this. It all should have been on ONE topic. I am not saying to delete anything, because I think Korey Mirical should see everything that is posted in his group, so he can determine what actions to take over matters, so he knows what is going on.
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April 1, 2013 at 3:14 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Shadow
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Posts: 383 Get on TS. I SWEAR on my own honor!! YOU WILL NOT BANNED!!!!
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" Our passion for flight is endless, although our time as a group is not"- FAF731, Sam Melvin
April 1, 2013 at 5:21 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Shadow
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Posts: 383 Free speech? Dude. There is SO much of that in this group. U know why? We are in the USA !!!! So saying we dont have free speech... well we do. We will talk about this on ts!! Whats the matter about discissing it voice to voice? R u scared? Scared the people that u think are inmature will do something? Arenot you the leader of GEPO? In the real military they dont talk it out on fourms... they talk it out face ro face... dont apper weak.. get on TS!!!!
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" Our passion for flight is endless, although our time as a group is not"- FAF731, Sam Melvin
April 1, 2013 at 10:44 PM Flag Quote & Reply

GPEO Dragnoxz
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Dude, I would be texting anyway, and can't focuse when someone is complaining. I would have to find my MIC, and it is rude for me to be talking on here when my roommate is here trying to study. It is bad enough I type. Remember I am stuck in the dorms. On the weekend it is a different story.

Scared to talk, no. I do, however, have an issue when beign talked over or down to, unable to get my point or words in. And I know very well about military affairs. And I was in the TS yesterday, I think. And I am the leader of GPEO, not GEPO. Never heard of GEPO.


You should post here until the weekend. We have the tread open, everyone can see and take part in the talk. It is not like we are insulting one another, we are debating and using teh forum. It is also bringing traffic.


(Well, off topic, but, what dose everyone think of the paints of the fighter ?)


All I been saying is I have been trying to hlep, more than you know. And I don't want to have to take the FAF site off of Wikipedia, it serves to bring your gorup recruits. The thing is, being on ITTN means you are operating in the VR-World. I know you like to use the 797, ando ther craft, and it may be possible in the VR-World, but in the VR-World things are done statistically and realistcally logical (that is why I been reserching the USN ships). It does nto need to be over-realistic, but at least for major things such as ships, yes, because not everyone has the claims to one ship, it makes no sense for multiple groups to claim a single ship, especially if they could enter a war. The ship would end up having a battle on board for days. And a battle on a nuclear powered ship is not a good thing, same goes for a submarine. Same goes for rare aircraft, like F-22's, SU-37's, F-20's, B-2's, F-117's, AN-225's, etc. So many have held the claim of more than what is in existence, and if anything, in the VR-World, most of those my be destroyed in battles, I remember downing F-22's. this is another reason we are trying to bring back older craft, like MiG-21's, F-4's and F-5's. The Mirage-2000 I posted is not so old, and is like a single engien EF-2000 without the canards. Nice plane, just slow at low altitude. And I been working on it to try and fix the air file to where it flys fast at high altitude, and slower at low. And if we all start to phase back to the older generation aircraft, they will be more easier to attain, to paint and customize for groups, and more skill would be required to use, due to a slower turning radius. This equalizes things, the craft operate more stable, and video footage looks more realistic and air combat becomes more fun.


I think it is good to use the forum for these kind of talks, because everyone can see what we talk about, and we can all go back to them and look up ideas we had, and can keep a record of what we say. We probably should have wrote aboout the NZ battle in detail before forgetting about it. That would have prevented this kind of issue.
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April 2, 2013 at 1:30 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Shadow
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Posts: 383

Get on TS.
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April 2, 2013 at 9:57 AM Flag Quote & Reply

GPEO Dragnoxz
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Posts: 40

I prefer we keep things on record, here on the forum till the weekend. I am not going to be able to do much on TS without a MIC. So, please, if you will, state what you want to say.
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