VR-World Carriers / VR-World Paradox

The following is the list of carriers of the VR-World historically logical.
Ship, Name, (Status when recovered by a faction), Possible or confirmed owner.

CV-10 Yorktown (Museum Ship S-Carolina) ACC could have acquired this.
CV-11 Intrepid (Museum NY) VNF could have acquired this (unknown)
CV-12 Hornet (Museum San Fran, CA) VNF could have acquired this. (unknown)
CV-16 Lexington (Museum Texas) FSXM could have attained this.
CV-41 Midway (Museum Japan) TFC could have acquired this.
CV-59 Forrestal (Scrap Fleet, PA) Recovered/Rescued by GPEO.
CV-61 Ranger (Moth Ball WA) FSX-AF recovered, somehow got to VNF fleet.
CV-62 Independence (Scrap Fleet, WA) Recovered/Rescued by GPEO.
CV-63 Kitty Hawk (Reserve Fleet, WA) Recovered by FSX-AF, somehow to VNF.
CV-64 Constellation (Reserve Fleet, WA) Recovered by GPEO.
CVN-65 Enterprise (Reserve Fleet, Norfolk, VA) Recovered by GPEO.
CV-67 John F. Kennedy (At port in Norfolk, VA Refueling) Recovered by GPEO.
CVN-68 Nimitz (In Service USN) Leased by Task Force 7, returned to USN/FSXF
CVN-69 Dwight D. Eisenhower (USN Service) Under FSX-Fleet Leadership.
CVN-70 Carl Vinson (FSXF/USN till formation of VMC then transfer to CG then to TCF) is now TFC.
CVN-71 Theodor Roosevelt (USN/GPEO Leadership) GPEO took command.
CVN-72 Abraham Lincoln (USN/FSXF Leadership) FSX-Fleet took command.
CVN-73 George Washington (USN Leadership) ASPL then GPEO took command.
CVN-74 John C. Stennis (USN/FSXF Leadership) FSX-Fleet took command.
CVN-75 Harry S. Truman (USN/FSXF Leadership) FSX-Fleet took command.
CVN-76 Ronald Reagan (USN/FSXF Leadership) FSX-Fleet took command.
CVN-77 George H.W. Busch (Under Construction) (GPEO, then to TFC)

CVN-78 (Under Construction)
CVN-79 (Under Construction)

If any faction disputes this, state below. This is the closest to accuracy we have from looking back to where factions were and would be, recognizing FSX-Fleet to being the original US Forces, and GPEO the Rebel Forces of the USA. FSX Air Force being an Air Militia. Anything after the FSX-Fleet, FSX Air Force (Jeramey's) and the GPEO were not in the VR-World. USEC also was not part of the VR-World. This logical chronological reasoning of factions existing and possibility of them able to acquire such ships is what it is. this is the only possible explanation of how such factions could have attained these ships.

We can do this with everything from bullets and troops to aircraft and nukes, if we have to set things right in the VR-World. Even GPEO may have to lessen some of its inventory, and if GPEO has to remove 50%, other groups will know for sure just how little they really have in the VR-World. Although GPEO is not on political sound terms with this group, Uatia is by far the group with the most accurate assets, without UDACOM.

To make things fair and logical and understood, I feel that one leader of every main faction should be involved in behind the scenes affairs in the UIA. That is, leaders who already have an entire faction established. Those leaders who are dealing in behind the scenes affairs in UIA will know everything the others know, regarding inventory, and they are the only ones who have to know. There is an in game character we play when doing political affairs and VR-World stuff, and there is an out of character (behind the scenes) aspect all leaders need to be part of to make this VR-World great. Everyone in Blue on this forum should be qualified for the deep UIA affairs, and that is really all that needs to know.

Looking at the carrier list, I have noticed there is allot of carriers for factions. It is going to be very hard to determine who has what, but I think we should get it all cleared up. We can't just take away ships already in a faction, but we can re-name them to the correct ships. However, some factions may have ships they claim, and may have to abandon their claims to them for the facts cannot nor will not be rejected. If we don't have the carriers we claim, we just have to live with the facts.

We need a list of factions with multiple carriers, like FSXF, GPEO, TFC, FSX-Force, VNF, etc (factions that have claimed carriers). Exclude the factions that are confirmed to not be part of the VR-World, but acknowledge their historical time in the VR-World and usage of the carriers they may have had, and the time frame correlations of where they and the ships were during their time in the VR-World.

The unclaimed carriers should go to the proper nation (not faction) of origin of ship. For example, if we exclude FSXF or other factions no longer in existence or disbanded, the nation that faction originated from will have the assets returned to it. Factions or random players in sessions would be the ones operating from them, to keep the realism and imagination logical. The Real USA would still be using them.

GPEO is for sure going to research further and confirm its carriers. TFC and other factions also should do the same. This is something that must be done before the VR-World can move further. We need to find out where every ship was in 2006-2007, on to this current time. Factions that occupy an area during the completion of a ship would have that ship.

I hope that faction leaders can come together for the common cause to confirm everything, in a selfless manner, to where we can gather the evidence of the past and historical facts. This is important for the future of the VR-World, and will help end any arguments of who has what.

Factions also should realistically form in the VR-World. If new groups form out of old groups, the new group will use assets from the group they parted from. Example, GPEO-UDACOM Separation. GPEO assets under the UDACOM leader would have to be confirmed by the GPEO to have separated from GPEO assets. AWACS Craft, Satellite Command Centers, Communications, Reconnaissance, Jamming Craft, mostly would be under UDACOM Leadership, but GPEO and UDACOM would have to sign on such arrangement to make things official. USVAF would be given GPEO assets by GPEO upon the withdraw of GPEO, not taken. This means GPEO Ships and other assets, American Troops that volunteer to break form GPEO to serve in their homes under USVAF (to be of UDACOM). Old VMC assets were donated to GPEO, from Australia to S-California. Those assets would be given to USVAF or UDACOM, due to the splitting. A GPEO headed carrier of American Personnel is in port in N-California, there is also said to be 2 old carriers there as well, carriers that can be re-activated. This would logically mean that if GPEO hands over its carrier to help defend the US, and if USVAF/UDACOM re-activates those 2 carriers, there will be 3 carriers defending the US West Coast. There may be another carrier as a museum in S-California, which could add a 4th carrier to their inventory, for the defense of the US West Coast.

If we are careful and think things through, we all will find the facts and then can confirm our rights to what we have. And anyone that would attempt to dispute our rightful claims can be pointed to the logical documents and historical facts that state that we have what we have.

Another way to quickly confirm things properly is to have all factions put in the claims of their carriers and ships, then use the VR-World timeline to determine if they would actually have those.

This is more accurate.


CV-10 Yorktown -              (ACC)     (This is one of the ships that could have been activated by the ACC, and used against the GPEO. It is possible that this ship is now under FSX-Force leadership)


CV-11 Intrepid -              (VNF)     (VNF Mothball Fleet) (Converted into active service by Admiral Jazar of the VNF, till VNF went inactive)


CV-12 Hornet -                (FSXBC)   (VNF could have acquired this ship, but if not the Black Crows could have. Black Crows were reported to have used carriers, and this may have been one of them)


CV-16 Lexington -             (Unknown) (Possibly FSXM, possibly hidden somewhere)


CV-41 Midway -                (Uatia)   (Formally USS Midway used by VMC after the war then left in San Diego and reactivated by USVAF)


CV-59 Forrestal -             (VNF or ACC)     (Was prepared for scuttle in VA, when VNF, GPEO or ACC could have recovered it).


CV-60 Saratoga -              (GPEO)    (Liberated by GPEO after battle for Seattle (Was in reserve in WA)


CV-61 Ranger -                (GPEO)    (Liberated by GPEO after battle for Seattle (Was in reserve in WA)


CV-62 Independence -          (GPEO)    (Liberated by GPEO after battle for Seattle (Was in reserve in WA)


CV-63 Kitty Hawk -            (GPEO)     Was deployed off the coast of China along with two other ships during the Taiwan election on 20 March 2008. (New information about the Kitty Hawk has been discovered. It was one of the carriers that was isolated from the FSXF, off the coast of China during the beginning of the Revolutionary War. This carrier was most likely one of the ones that the GPEO influenced to side against the FSXF. It's historical logs have been updated).


CV-64 Constellation -         (GPEO)    (Liberated by GPEO after battle for Seattle (Was in reserve in WA)


CV-65 Enterprise -            (GPEO)    On 19 December 2007, the carrier returned home after a six-month deployment in the Persian Gulf. In April 2008, Enterprise entered the Northrop-Grumman Newport News shipyard for a scheduled 18-month Extended Docking Selected Restricted Availability, with a projected completion date of September 2009 (This ship was liberated by the GPEO while it was undergoing its updates)


CV-67 John F. Kennedy -       (VNF or GPEO)     On 22 March 2008 Kennedy arrived, with the afternoon high tide, at the Naval Inactive Ship Maintenance Facility in Philadelphia. (Was in port the days during GPEO Forces would have been present, after the Revolutionary War. It possible it could have been liberated by GPEO in the final days of the war)


CVN-68 Nimitz -               (USN)     (USN to FSXF then to USN) On 24 January 2008, Nimitz deployed to the Pacific for a "surge"-deployment (It is safe to say FSXF would have used this ship against GPEO in the Pacific, till the end when it was returned to the USN).


CVN-69 Dwight D. Eisenhower - (GPEO)     In April 2007, the ship was to be relieved by the USS Nimitz. (It is unclear as to where this ship was at during any part of the war, it is like a void of time missing during the entire Revolutionary War, from Sat 10/27/07 to Thu 3/27/08). (New data has been recovered regarding this ship. This is most likely the one that was used by the GPEO at Guam. It is very likely that the GPEO influenced the crew during the Revolutionary War, and was the carrier that SkyDragon launched from in the first battle "Story in Red." The logs have been updated).


CVN-70 Carl Vinson -          (TFC)     The ship moved out of dry dock to pier side berth at Northrop Grumman Newport News shipyard in May 2007 (This ship could  be in the GPEO Fleet, however, arrangements for the VMC to have a carrier were made. VMC used it during training and war games. Upon the disbanding of VMC, it worked to transfer the ship to FSX-CG, and had GPEO validate the transfer to CG. Upon the disbanding of CG, it transferred the ship to TFC, where it is serving currently).


CVN-71 Theodor Roosevelt -    (USN)     (FSXF/USN) On 4 October 2008 the ship would have stopped at Cape Town, South Africa, but did not due to a storm. If it did stop it would have been liberated by GPEO lead forces. (This ship was frequently in the Indian Ocean serving under FSXF leadership. After the withdraw of FSXF, the ship was returned to the USN).


CVN-72 Abraham Lincoln -      (USN)     (FSXF/USN) (The ship was moved 2 months before the GPEO Invasion of Seattle. It is believed this was the ship used in failed counter attacks in Seattle. With FSXF withdraw of the VR-World this ship was returned to the USN).


CVN-73 George Washington -    (GPEO)    GW returned to Norfolk on 24 May 2006.(The ship could have been liberated by GPEO rebels that later formed into ASPL. After a period of time, the ASPL broke off of GPEO and used the ship. Later the ASPL disbanded and returned the ship back to GPEO, to be re-activated as part of the GPEO 7th Task Force).


CVN-74 John C. Stennis -      (GPEO)    On 31 August 2007 Stennis returned to Bremerton. Stennis departed (was to depart from) Bremerton for a 6-month deployment to the Western Pacific on 13 January 2009. (This ship was in Washington at the time the Battle for Seattle took place. The GPEO liberated this).


CVN-75 Harry S. Truman -      (USN/CVW-3)     (FSXF/CVW-3/USN) On 5 November 2007 Harry S Truman left Norfolk for her fourth extended deployment with CVW-3 embarked in support of OIF. HST returned to the US on 4 June 2008. (this ship would be one the FSXF moved from port before the end of the Revolutionary War, and ties to CVW-3 are recorded. This ship may be under CVW-3 (VM Leadership), serving in the USN)


CVN-76 Ronald Reagan -        (Uatia)   (Formally USS Ronald Reagan used by FSX Fleet then sent back to San Diego after it was crippled by a B-52 flown by Captain Kreutzer on 01/11/08. It remained in harbor which later was controlled by VMC after the Revolutionary War. The VMC started repairs on it. When the VMC Disbanded, they gave the ship to the GPEO. The GPEO did not have the personal to continue repairs on the ship, so it was left mothballed. The GPEO signed it over to Uatia, where it Is currently with the Uatian 1st Fleet, re-designated as U.R.S Nobility. Uatia has not been able to complete repairs due to other priorities).


CVN-77 George H.W. Bush -     (TFC)     (Was one of the GPEO Navy's at construction completion and named the Rockstar, then the GPEO split occurred and the ship was abandoned in Israel, taken by Rebel US Forces in Israel, then sailed to the Pacific and out of the factions organization formed into TFC. The ship is now the main flag ship of the TFC).

I have done an extensive amount of research, and found that I don't have as many ships as I thought, however the ships of Iran, Singapore and Malaysia make up for some of the loss. I had to go beyond Wikipedia, and even had to E-Mail the web masters of the main web site of some of the ships, which is most likely of the crew of those ships, which is why they can update the sites regularly.

In my research I have also confirmed that places like Hawaii, San Diego, and San Fransisco, are also still under GPEO leadership. With UDACOM's split, it is logical to accept that its split off surrendered whatever leadership roles it had over GPEO assets, including the bases it operated out of. Taking assets would be theft, and the GPEO reserves its right to act upon such theft. However, if the former GPEO member who left is willing to play things right, GPEO is wiling to donate ships, and other assets for the defense of the California and Colorado areas, however those areas would not be under government leadership of UDACOM, it will be under the leadership of the US government once GPEO withdraws from it.

The thought that GEO has already left those areas must stop immediately, for GPEO has only left Vancouver, Seattle, South Tip of South America, France, and parts of the SE-Region of the US. The GPEO may or may not leave completely, maintaining the defense of the International Shipbuilding Corporation, International Manufacturing Corporation and the Universal Space Exploration Administration. Scar Creak is still under USEA leadership, but GPEO forces have left, which means the SPOND Training Facility is no longer active. IMC works to construct aircraft and aerospace research with USEA, and ISC builds ships out of the naval construction yards. Several battleships are being prepared for reactivation by the ISC. ISC hopes to work with Aurora to refit the battleships with Rail Gun technology, in return the battleship in Hawaii and California can be up for delivery to UDACOM's leadership. It has also been confirmed that the Kennedy was also under GPEO leadership from the moment it was decommissioned, while it was on its way out of Norfolk.

As I write the book about the FSX Revolutionary War, I am recovering memories about events that happened. One memory I seem to have recalled is that the Ronald Reagan was the carrier that got bombed by Captain Kreutzer, of the GPEO. The reason it was in harbor was because it had taken extensive damage to its runway deck. And because it was so damaged, all factions neglected it in the San Diego bay. So, whoever got that ship would need to repair its entire flight deck.

It has been confirmed that the Kitty Hawk and the Dwight D. Eisenhower were officially GPEO controlled carriers at the beginning of the Revolutionary War. The Eisenhower was the carrier GPEO initially launched the F-14 from off the coast of Guam. As I research more, it is looking like most of the East Coast carriers might have been controlled by FSXF or USN, though allot of them were in port.

The Nimitz was DEFINITELY under FSXF command at the time. It was to relieve the Eisenhower, and it fits the transition of the real world and virtual realm world almost perfectly. Of course, the Nimitz would be sent to "relieve" a carrier that was falling under the influence of a non federal entity.

It makes sense that at the beginning, the GPEO only had the ability to influence a few carriers that had been out at sea. Another carrier, CVN-71 Theodor Roosevelt, in the Atlantic, could have been influenced as well. That would be the carrier the Rogue Mercenary Squadron would have used. Due to weather, in the real world, it didn't stop in Capetown as it passed by South Africa. However, virtually, the GPEO could have influenced that carrier, and it could have waited off the coast of Capetown until the weather cleared. This would be the carrier posted off the south tip of South America, or South Africa.